Episode 16

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20th Feb 2025

Artists and business working together

In this episode we're covering a topic that might not instinctively come to mind when you think of creativity and numbers: the collaboration between artists and businesses.

People often assume these two worlds don't align due to their different focuses - art on creativity, business on profitability - but this episode will challenge that notion.

Over more than three decades, I've witnessed how successful partnerships between artists and businesses can lead to ground-breaking results.

We'll uncover the common ground shared by these seemingly disparate entities and explore how both sides can come together for mutual success.

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Passion to Profit, the podcast that's dedicated to empowering

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you as an individual artist and creative with a financial and

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business know how needed to thrive. Today, I'm going to be

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exploring a topic that could open new doors for your creative

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career. How artists and businesses can work together for

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mutual success. Now, you might be thinking artists and business.

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That doesn't sound like a natural fit, but trust me, there's more

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common ground than you might expect. When artists and businesses do

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team up, it can often lead to fresh ideas, new

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perspectives and success for both sides.

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My inspiration for this episode comes from my involvement with

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arts and crafts organizations over three decades plus.

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I've seen firsthand how how these relationships can help

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businesses build their brand, connect with their customers, while

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artists gain networks and opportunities, financial

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opportunities to grow their own work.

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Now tonight, I'm going to be sharing three tips to help you as an

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artist get the most from working with businesses. Tip number

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one Leave your preconceptions out the door. Now, it's

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very easy to think that businesses are all about numbers and profits,

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while artists are purely about creativity. But did you know

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both are actually problem solvers and goal setters? Let's say you're a

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visual artist collaborating with, say a marketing company. You

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will bring fresh visual ideas. They will help you understand

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timelines and budgets and together you will create something

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magnificent and brilliant. So keep that open mind. Don't

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assume you don't understand each other. You'll have similar challenges,

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similar perspectives, similar desires to do well. But

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always use your common sense. Be curious, but make sure you

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do your research as well. What's tip number two? Well, tip

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number two, make sure you set clear objectives.

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Now you could be a dancer, perhaps that finds the opportunity to team

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up with a fitness brand for a campaign. What is it you both want to

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achieve out of that relationship? Maybe they need some engaging

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content and you want exposure and fair remuneration.

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Now setting out your stall, setting out your goals from the start helps you know

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when you're both achieving what you want and winning. That success

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can be measured with very simple KPIs or key performance indicators.

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And don't let that term scare you. It just means that

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how do you know you've achieved something? What's that Indicator of success?

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So you might be checking things like audience reach or sales growth. It keeps you

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both on track. Businesses will want something tangible coming

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out of that relationship and you will as well. So having

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a KPI helps you acknowledge when you've achieved that.

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Now what's tip number three? Well, tip Number three is about monitoring,

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reviewing, keeping an eye open for your success. Now

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you could be a ceramicist working perhaps with a home decor

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company. You agree on the objectives, but halfway through there's a

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realization that sales are not as strong as expected. Now, rather

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than hoping, fingers crossed, that it improves, have those checkups

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or check ins if you prefer. What's working, what's not quite working,

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Dialogue, conversation, adjust your approach if needed. Regular

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reviews keeps that partnership healthy and ensure both

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sides get value. You understand more about each other and that can

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only be for the positive. So let me recap.

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Preconceptions Whatever your preconceptions about businesses are

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what they represent, leave leave them outside and go in with an open

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mind. Set yourself objectives. Know what your destination

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is. What does it look like? What is it you want to achieve out of

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the relationship, and what is it your business wants to achieve?

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Monitor success. There's no point having expectations

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and a plan if you're not going to check in and review what's going on.

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Now for us, there's a wealth of opportunities in working with businesses and

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I would definitely recommend check out our artist directory

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where you can host who you are, what you do and make

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that available to the outside world and businesses. There's a gold mine of

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creativity in the arts world that's largely untapped. Together,

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a good partnership, a good relationship means you can solve problems and

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grow. Now, if this episode has got you thinking, I'd love it if you could

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subscribe to the podcast, share it with your creative friends and your next

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step. Join our free Dedicated for Artists and

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Creators numbers. Know how Community is a space built especially

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for artists and creatives just like you, helping you build your

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financial confidence and your business. Know how Check out the link in the

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show notes until next time, folks. Keep creating and keep thriving.

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From Creative Passion To Profit
From Creative Passion To Profit: the podcast dedicated to empowering individual artists and creatives with the financial and business knowhow needed to thrive
In the creative world, passion and talent are essential. But understanding the business side is fundamental for sustained success. "From Creative Passion To Profit" bridges the gap between creativity and commerce, providing you with the tools to manage your finances, develop marketing strategies, and grow your entrepreneurial mindset.
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Each episode delves into topics such as crafting a winning business plan, demystifying taxes, pricing your work confidently, and overcoming the starving artist mentality. Our goal is to equip you with actionable insights to make informed decisions, ensuring your creative practice not only survives but flourishes.
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About your host

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Mahmood Reza

Hi, my name is Mahmood, accountant, educator and author of the book, I Hate Numbers !!
I actually love numbers and what they can do for my business – and every business - but I come across so many people who have a real fear of numbers/maths/accounts (and accountants), and therefore, their business struggles to survive, never mind thrive. If only they knew how to get a fondness and some kind of control of those numbers!
Why am I so passionate about all of this stuff I’m putting out into the public domain? It’s my belief that once you understand what your numbers are, where they come from, and what they mean, you can use them to make better decisions and ultimately make (or keep) more money. What every business owner wants, right?
The one thing I’ll always guarantee you, is that whether you’re the CEO of a global corporation, or a market stall trader in your local town, your numbers matter – and you simply can’t get away from them. This book is your chance to get them all in one place, face your fears, and start making those numbers work for you.