Episode 13

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29th Jan 2025

Why your creativity deserves a business mindset

"If you don't drive your business, you will be driven out of business." - B.C. Forbes

If you’re like most creative professionals, you often think your artistic work isn't compatible with business. But ignoring the business side can hamper your potential and drain your passion.

My aim in "From Creative Passion to Profit" is to bridge the gap between creativity and business, helping artists thrive in both realms.

With 25+ years of transforming numbers into business success, I'll share key mindset shifts to elevate your creative career economically and sustainably.

The Transition from Creative to Professional

In this episode, we dive into three key mindset shifts essential for turning your creative passion into a profitable venture.

First, we tackle the tricky subject of putting value on your work....

Timestamped summary

00:00 "Creativity is a Business"

06:14 Pause Before Saying Yes

06:53 Artist vs. Business Mindset

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Transcript
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Welcome to From Creative Passion to Profit. It's the

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podcast where creativity walks arm in arm with

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business. My aim is to help you build a thriving

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creative career. And today I'm going to be tackling a topic that is

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very common amongst creatives and artists, and

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that's not thinking like a business.

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Now, I'm not saying you sacrifice your artistic soul, I'm not saying

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you sacrifice your artistic DNA, but you need to embrace

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the world of business and adapt it to your creative

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practice if you want to build a prosperous creative

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career. I know what you're thinking. We're not in the business of

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making money. It's our artistic impact we're concerned with. And

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surely that business stuff, that's for the suits, that's for corporates,

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that's for spreadsheets and the like, not for us. But

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hear me out. The moment you actually reform, re,

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energize and reframe your thinking and see your creative work as

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a professional service and not just a mere humble passion

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project is the moment your creative practice accelerates and

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takes off. Now, let's throw in an example. There's Serena,

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an amazing artist. Every evening, every weekend, she's

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sketching away. She publishes her work online, but she feels in a

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bit of a rut, a bit of a quagmire. She does sell the occasional

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piece, but she feels guilty for asking for more money,

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in her mind is artwork. Nobody appreciates the work. It's

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just a hobby, she says, and she has no way of moving forward

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with this. Does that sound familiar to you? This is not a talent issue, but

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this is a business and a reframing issue. And without planning,

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without thinking forward, you're going to be in a constant cycle of

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undercharging and overworking. And the truth is, if you're

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really serious about your craft, if you really are serious about

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showcasing your talent to the wider world and doing it as a full time

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activity or perhaps a profitable part time activity, then you

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need to start thinking as a business. And whatever anybody says to

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you, don't accept their stobbery. Being a creative, being an artist is

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a business. Now, in this episode, I'm going to be covering three

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key mindset shifts to help you get there. Number

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one, putting value on your work. Number two,

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appreciating that profit is not a bad thing. Profit

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is the thing that powers your creative practice, sustains your creative

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practice and makes sure that you're here next year. Provides a

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decent income for yourself, and. It helps you deliver your why to your

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audience appreciation. The costs of your Creativity. And yes,

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there are costs concerned. And as a bougie bonus, setting

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boundaries that protect you and your creative practice.

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Start with the idea of putting value on your work. Now, creative

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people often struggle to put. A price on their talent. The

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appreciation, the love of doing the work, the inability to

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embrace the idea of charging gets in the way.

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That thought might be floating through your mind is, can I really charge

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people for what I'm doing? My short answer is

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absolutely, you can and absolutely you should. Your work has

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value because it's unique. It's. It's unique to the person who's looking at

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it. It's unique to the person who's viewing it. It's unique to the person who's

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experiencing it. Think about it. You pay a plumber to fix your sink.

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Wouldn't you? If you wouldn't, they're not going to fix your sink for you. They've

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got skills and experiences just like you. So here's your first

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mindset shift. Stop seeing payment as a favor. Somebody

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is helping you out. It's a reflection of the value you bring.

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It's an exchange. You're bringing joy, you're bringing impact.

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And monetary exchange seems a bargain. The next thing is

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the idea of. Profitability and making profits. Now, many

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artists that I know and work with, from comedians,

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musicians, actors, performers. Will tell me

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initially that they're not in it for the money, they're not in it for making

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profits. And that's a fair observation, a fair comment for them to

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make. However, every type of business,

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whatever space. You inhabit, if you do not look to making a profit

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to recoup your costs and make something on top of. It, you never build

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up a fighting fund, you never build up reserves, you never reward

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yourself fairly. You'll be unable to invest in the

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future, you'll be unable to operate, and. You'Ll just

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introduce stress and anxiety into your life when it shouldn't be there.

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There's nothing wrong with making profit how you make it,

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what you do with. That profit is a secondary conversation. But

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absolutely, profit is a necessity. Let's also talk

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about costs. Now, you might be charging, for arguments sake, £200. So

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think about Serena in our earlier example. But what about the time and

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the materials and all the overheads, the expenses

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required to make that piece of work? Now, if she's spending

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£100 on supplies. And another 20 hours drawing, the

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£200. She'S charging starts to look pretty miserable

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and pretty thin. To run your sustainable creative business,

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you need to factor in all of the costs. Now, the obvious ones

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like materials and studio space, but also things like travel,

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time, traveling to see a client, traveling to do the piece of work,

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marketing, promotion. All of those have a cost attached to

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it. Now it was a straightforward, easy way to start. Make a

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note of the costs involved in your creative process. Now, whether you do

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it online, digitally, or whether you do it on a piece of paper matters

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not. But write down the costs involved in your creative process.

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You'll be surprised of how much slips under the radar. Now

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let's talk boundaries. As a creative, it's tempting to say yes to

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every opportunity. Been there, seen it, worn the T shirt,

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free gigs, exposure, deals. Yep, do this for nothing and

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you'll get wide known underpricing your commissions just to get a piece of

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work. Understandable. But it adds up to burnout. And it adds

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up to reinforcing the low value you might put in yourself.

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Now try this. For the next few weeks, practice saying

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no to offers that don't match your worth. Or pause before

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you say yes. For example, if somebody asks for a discount, reframe

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that. Perhaps try something like I'd love to help, but my rate

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reflects the time and materials needed to deliver quality. One that I

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share with my clients is to say, I'd love to, but my accountant

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would have a go at me. It's not fair on my current clients there. But

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don't immediately say yes to an offer. Value

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your work and value yourself. Understand and appreciate your costs

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and set those boundaries. Not only will you earn more, but. You

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will also protect your passion from burnout. Now let me know

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what you think folks. Does it resonate with what your thoughts are? Do you think

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like a business owner? Or do you think just like an artist and ignore

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the business disciplines required until next time.

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About the Podcast

From Creative Passion To Profit
From Creative Passion To Profit: the podcast dedicated to empowering individual artists and creatives with the financial and business knowhow needed to thrive
In the creative world, passion and talent are essential. But understanding the business side is fundamental for sustained success. "From Creative Passion To Profit" bridges the gap between creativity and commerce, providing you with the tools to manage your finances, develop marketing strategies, and grow your entrepreneurial mindset.
By focusing on practical financial and business advice, specifically for individual artists and creatives, this podcast will provide valuable and focused support.
Each episode delves into topics such as crafting a winning business plan, demystifying taxes, pricing your work confidently, and overcoming the starving artist mentality. Our goal is to equip you with actionable insights to make informed decisions, ensuring your creative practice not only survives but flourishes.
Join us as we explore the intersection of art and business, helping you turn your passion into a profitable and fulfilling career. Subscribe today and take the first step towards mastering your creative enterprise with From Creative Passion To Profit!

About your host

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Mahmood Reza

Hi, my name is Mahmood, accountant, educator and author of the book, I Hate Numbers !!
I actually love numbers and what they can do for my business – and every business - but I come across so many people who have a real fear of numbers/maths/accounts (and accountants), and therefore, their business struggles to survive, never mind thrive. If only they knew how to get a fondness and some kind of control of those numbers!
Why am I so passionate about all of this stuff I’m putting out into the public domain? It’s my belief that once you understand what your numbers are, where they come from, and what they mean, you can use them to make better decisions and ultimately make (or keep) more money. What every business owner wants, right?
The one thing I’ll always guarantee you, is that whether you’re the CEO of a global corporation, or a market stall trader in your local town, your numbers matter – and you simply can’t get away from them. This book is your chance to get them all in one place, face your fears, and start making those numbers work for you.